His career on trains began on the 6 line around '83 with Brim. They were amongst the first members of TAT's . Mack also partnered up with them. Shame's talent made him a sought after partner. He met Raz, who introduced him to SEEN UA and pilgramages to the ghost yard circa '84 became commonplace. During this period he would often collaborate with Cem , Kenn , T.KID , Bio , Lase and Raz who would execute an army of memorable cars that set the style standard of the day. Shame even made a cameo appearance on the #1 Broadway line, blazing a two man panel with DERO. He quit the trains in '87. The baddest cats in the game speak of him with extreme reverence, but he's a humble cat who'd never toot his own horn.